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Discursive patterns regarding sexual violence [Women and Violence, Part 3]
[This is part of my series on Women and Violence, which I am writing as a project for a Women Studies course I'm taking. For an explanation and information on my intentions with this series, please see the introduction.]

A couple of disclaimers, to start:

-First, this is not about me being angry at, or blaming, any particular individuals. This is also not about placing the responsibility for a society-wide problem on these particular individuals.

-Second, this entry is for everyone to read, even though I refer to a specific example in which only a few people were involved. The point of this entry is, again, not to pin the responsibility on anyone. The point is to raise awareness of a common, problematic pattern that we all engage in.

The other day I posted this rant to my journal concerning an incident at work. I was disturbed and angry about what seems to me an instance of sexual harassment (not because it was necessarily aimed at women, but because it was sexual and it was harassment). I was also aware of the ways in which sexism played into my reaction: my first instinct was to minimize my own discomfort and stay quiet about it, though in the end I realized what I was doing and spoke up.

Several people commented on that entry (though I have since screened the comments - again, so that attention or blame is not focused on one or two people). Here is the layout of the comments as of today, April 14:

-One short thread (one person's comment and my reply) expressing sympathy about my experience.
-One long thread that begins with a person expressing sympathy, then suggesting an alternate explanation that would excuse the anonymous man's actions as being something other than sexual harassment. The thread continues with two other people joining in to support the idea of an alternate explanation, and the topic of my distress leaves the conversation.

Why did the conversation end up like this?

Let me tell you a short anecdote, to provide a bit of perspective: About a year and a half ago, I hurt my back and walking was painful and difficult for a few months. During this time, while I was crossing a crowded crosswalk on campus, a man walking in the opposite direction bumped into me with enough force that, in my normal physical state, I would have stumbled backwards. As it was, I exerted effort to not fall over. The man said nothing, and as I turned around to glare at him I saw him walking blithely away, talking to someone next to him. When I found some friends I ranted about what had happened, in much the same state as I was in when I wrote the abovementioned entry. A guy had run into me, I told them, and didn't care enough to apologize or see if I was all right.

Every single person I talked to asked if I was okay. Not a single person attempted to second-guess my account by asking, "But what if he didn't notice? What if he said 'sorry' but you didn't hear him?"

These are, of course, possible alternate explanations. Not hugely likely, but possible. And yet no one seemed to consider it important to bring them up.

I bring up this example not to say that we should never look for alternate explanations of harmful or harassing behavior, or to say that this reaction was Right and the one to my recent post was Wrong. I bring it up to show that the way the conversation that ensued on my post was not automatic or natural. My anecdote shows how it could have gone another way - how it did not have to end up with the majority of the emphasis on finding ways to excuse the anonymous man's actions.

What's the difference between these two cases? It certainly isn't that the commenters on my blog are ruder or dumber than the people I talked to after I got bumped into. It isn't that they intended to minimize my feelings and discredit me in favor of the anonymous man. It wasn't even about any single person or comment turning a perfectly-good conversation into a perfectly-bad one. What bothers me was not the mere mention of an alternate explanation, but rather the way the conversation progressed; the cumulative effect was a prioritizing of the anonymous man's need for a fair 'trial' at the expense of neglecting my distress. It was the replication of a pattern that occurs time and time again when it comes to sexual violence and harassment, particularly when perpetrated by men against women.

In cases of sexual violence against women, the conversation is not always about comforting and believing the victim. It should be, but unfortunately there are many, many places - the legal system, the media, the community, the victim's peers or family - where the conversation is skewed into being about the perpetrator's credibility instead of the victim's need for justice. Excuses are given for the perpetrator. The victim's reliability is questioned. The conversation is made up of statements such as, "But he's such a nice guy," "I'm sure he didn't mean to hurt you," "He's so attractive he wouldn't need to rape a woman." To complement these sentiments is the questioning of the woman, in ways such as, "She must have been mistaken," "She's just overreacting," "She was flirting and sending the wrong messages," "Did she make it clear she didn't want to have sex?" And, of course, the old standard of, "She's just making it up."

Most of all, this isn't recognized as an unfair or misogynistic in mainstream circles. It is seen as normal. The discursive shift, from treating the victim as credible and rational to manipulative/misinformed/deceitful, occurs seemlessly. It isn't seen as remarkable. It certainly isn't seen as being biased toward the perpetrator.

Obviously my experience was not nearly this severe. I wasn't outright accused of being uncredible, or criticized as vindictive, or told I was somehow to blame for what happened. I didn't experience a great trauma. I bring up my example because it represents the same pattern, though to a much smaller degree. I want people to see what happened here and understand how we can participate in this pattern without realizing it, and without intending to be unfair to women who experience sexual violence. Because these kinds of situations are a training ground for the more extreme and damaging variety, where victims of greater forms of violence are belittled and dismissed, letting those who commit violence off the hook and leaving them free to victimize again.

That lesser-degree discursive shift is the precursor to things like the current mistreatment of Kathy Sierra, whose account of being viciously harassed and stalked is being minimized and dismissed, while Sierra herself is accused of overreacting and being unreliable. Because, much as I hate to admit it, the people who are engaging in the discrediting of Sierra's story are not excessively ignorant or hateful people. They simply fail to examine how they are buying into the same violence-excusing, victim-blaming discourse that allows for such rampant victimization of women to be disregarded, and their voices to be silenced. The ones who are crying foul over this treatment of Sierra are feminist bloggers, who are most familiar with this insidious discourse and its effects.

It is a seductive discourse, though, and not least because it's so common. When regular, intelligent people engage in the same thought processes, it's hard to recognize them as biased (though of course we could say that about privilege in general). There's also a comfort gleaned from engaging in this discourse, because by denying the plausibility of sexual violence we can continue to deny how prevalent it is - especially for women who are assailed with terror tactics based on this issue all the time, and especially in cases of victims who are uncomfortably 'just like us.'

The key, I think, to eliminating this discursive pattern is to ask ourselves, What are we assuming:

-About the victim's credibility or motives? Do we start off believing that she must be mistaken, that her version of things is incorrect? Do we assume that she's lying? Do we assume that she must have been 'emotional' or 'overreacting'?
-About the perpetrator? Do we assume that he must not have intended to hurt anyone? Do we assume that he has an excuse? Do we assume that his past good behavior indicates that he is innocent now?
-About the likelihood of sexual violence? Do we assume that it 'just doesn't happen around here'? Do we assume that sexual violence is the least likely explanation?
-About what is most important? The victim's comfort, or the possibility of proving her wrong, and making ourselves feel comforted?

It's tough to question ourselves like this, and it can be discomfiting. There's still the risk that we'll mess up anyway and wrong a victim. But at the very least, we must remember that these questions can and should be asked, so that the discursive pattern that harms victims of sexual violence can be interrupted.

x-posted to Shrub.com




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[info]revena
2007-04-16 06:42 pm UTC (link)
This is a very insightful post. I don't have anything to add, but I wanted you to know that I read it and appreciated it.

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[info]morchades
2007-04-16 11:16 pm UTC (link)
Ditto.

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[info]maho_kiwi
2007-04-16 11:55 pm UTC (link)
thirded.

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[info]sigelphoenix
2007-04-17 04:41 am UTC (link)
Thank you, everyone. :D

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[info]amazon_syren
2007-04-16 11:01 pm UTC (link)
I must agree with Revena.

your insight about what we assume going into a discussion about this stuff with someone who has experienced it, and that most of us don't mean to do this, but we continue to perpetuate the pattern regardless... I think these are important to understanding how this (all of this, the whole pattern, and everything to-which it's connected) keeps happening. I also think that these insights - because they aren't about Blaming the Patriarchy (while, I believe, they do recognize the pro-masculine/male bias of our society, which perpetuates this pattern) - can help in opening a discourse on the subject, rather than two groups hollering across "Gender Gulch" so to speak. :-)

I think this is very well done. :-)


Random: Every time I read one of these, I find myself going: "As a Women's Studies TA, I totally give you an 'A'!" You write well, you bring up good insights, you explain things clearly and without going on random tangents, you use relevent examples (and actually explain how they relate to your topic) and you clearly understand the works that you quote.
Go you! :-D

Actually, can I link you to my Women's Studies prof? I think she'd like this, too. :-)

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[info]sigelphoenix
2007-04-17 04:51 am UTC (link)
I also think that these insights - because they aren't about Blaming the Patriarchy (while, I believe, they do recognize the pro-masculine/male bias of our society, which perpetuates this pattern) - can help in opening a discourse on the subject, rather than two groups hollering across "Gender Gulch" so to speak. :-)

Thank you. Seriously. Most of the time* when I'm writing about oppressions, I really want to create an environment for open dialogue and learning. I want members of privileged groups to feel questioned and criticized, but not attacked. In this post particularly, knowing that the behavior is something that I engage in myself without meaning to, I wanted to emphasize the unintentionality (is that a word?).

*Some of the time I just want to rant and rage, in a not-particularly-gap-bridging way. :P

You're a Women Studies TA? That's awesome. As a not-yet-graduated Women Studies student, I appreciate your teacherly compliments. :D And yes, do send this to your professor if you think she'd like it. This is definitely for sharing.

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[info]amazon_syren
2007-04-17 02:25 pm UTC (link)
Re: Wanting to rant and rage in a not-particularly-gap-bridging way: Yeah, me too. It doesn't help. ;-)
The venting is *great*, and sometimes really needs to be done, but then you have to deal with Stupid Comments for (usually) guys who are feeling threatened or overlooked because of it. Which, personally, I never want to deal with. :-)

Re: Unintentionality: Um. I think so. :-)

Re: Being a TA: Not any more. :-) I've put my degree (Women and Religion: Canadian Goddess Spirituality and Women's Biological Abilities - that being menstruation, pregnancy, etc, etc) on indefinite hold due to profound unhappiness and lack of money. But, yeah. I TA'd Intro to Women's Studies twice and keep slipping into essay-marking-mode when I read stuff like this.
Basically, you rock. :-D

I will totally link my prof. :-D

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[info]sigelphoenix
2007-04-18 04:15 am UTC (link)
The venting is *great*, and sometimes really needs to be done, but then you have to deal with Stupid Comments for (usually) guys who are feeling threatened or overlooked because of it.

Yeah, I'm pretty lucky because the only people who read my LJ are smart, even if we don't totally agree on feminism, etc. And even though Shrub is more popular, comment moderation means I don't have to deal with morons. :D I honestly don't think I'd be able to put up with what blogs like Feministing and Pandagon get.

Ooh, your research sounds fascinating. But yeah, taking a break when you aren't feeling it is a smart thing to do.

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[info]amazon_syren
2007-04-18 05:13 pm UTC (link)
It *is* fascinating!

Random Book Recommendation: Issues of the Blood by Sophie Laws. It's all about menstrual etiquette in England and how men talk, and think, about menstruation. It is brilliant, insightful, and never slips into biological determinism. :-)

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[info]niwatorimegami
2007-04-17 01:57 am UTC (link)
I can definitely see your point, and agree that turning the topic of the conversation away is a negative thing. Still, I think that coming up with alternate explanations is a reflexive thing that people do regardless of the circumstances. Playing devil's advocate in our own heads and trying to find some way to rationalize or find another motive for a hostile action happens automatically in our heads, at least in my experience. It's not a good thing in most cases, as it's a mechanism to try and avoid conflict, but I don't think it's as strongly linked to privilege as you've laid it out to be. Does that make any sense?

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[info]sigelphoenix
2007-04-17 05:12 am UTC (link)
Hm. I don't think I really disagree with you. It's not that thinking up rationalizations, or even bringing them up in conversation, is a problem. It's only when those rationalizations dominate a conversation and result in a shift of what is considered reasonable/likely/important, that it causes damage. Thinking of an alternate explanation, or mentioning one, can be a harmless reflex - but not, say, touting that alternative as The Clear Truth to the detriment of the victim's own account.

On the other hand, I do think privilege has something to do with how much we turn to alternate explanations. Even if it's a reflexive habit, that habit might be born out of reluctance to oppose the status quo. The reason we consider it possible, for example, to believe the 'she's a slut who wanted it' excuse for rape has a lot to do with women's relative lack of power in the arena of sexuality. Logically, that alternate explanation should be recognized as unfair and unlikely; the fact that it isn't is a sign of male privilege. This might be what you disagree with, in which case I'd like to hear your thoughts.

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[info]niwatorimegami
2007-04-17 05:13 pm UTC (link)
Mm, I agree with the particular example that you use. I think it's true that privilege can often manifest in these kinds of illogical or unlikely justifications. I'm just wary of saying that this is something that is purely borne from the privilege of a group, I think it's more universal than that. The root of the problem, to me, is that desire to avoid conflict by any means possible, and it's true that people in a position of privilege would likely have a greater desire to avoid conflict, but I don't think it's an exclusive desire.

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[info]sigelphoenix
2007-04-18 04:17 am UTC (link)
Ah, okay. So you're saying to just keep from falling into the trap of attributing every instance of the behavior to privilege, right? That makes sense.

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[info]niwatorimegami
2007-04-18 05:19 pm UTC (link)
Yes, that's exactly what I was going for. ^^

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[info]betacandy
2007-04-17 06:22 am UTC (link)
It strikes me... and I may be wrong... but what came to mind as I read your posts is: we see male libido as a force of nature that men can't control. With that presumption in mind, it's no more logical for you to assume the toilet spunk was aimed personally at anyone than to assume rainy weather was aimed personally at anyone. Male libido Just Happens.

Except when women "entice" it and then are granted full responsibility over it. Uh... wow, never mind. None of it ever makes any sense.

But at least you know you got me thinking. :)

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[info]sigelphoenix
2007-04-18 04:02 am UTC (link)
Male libido Just Happens.

Except when women "entice" it and then are granted full responsibility over it.


Yeah, pretty much. >_< Somehow men, who are usually all-important, just magically disappear from the picture.

Ironically, this makes me want to break out a "what about teh menz?" rant. :P

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[info]betacandy
2007-04-18 03:23 pm UTC (link)
Somehow men, who are usually all-important, just magically disappear from the picture.

Yeah, exactly! And it's so mind-warpingly ludicrous... only Douglas Adams could capture the full absurdity of this in a few pithy words. *g*

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[info]amazon_syren
2007-04-18 05:11 pm UTC (link)
I confess, I totally wouldn't mind hearing about that. :-) Albeit, not necessarily as a rant. ;-) Yay for well-thought-out editorials. :-D

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[info]sigelphoenix
2007-04-19 12:13 am UTC (link)
Hmm, that would probably be good for an entry in this series, in fact. I've made a note of it. :D

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